Let’s face it: with Twilight’s teen angst and fresh-faced actors, it was only a matter of time until a Twilight-like TV series ended up on the CW — home of Gossip Girl and Smallville.
This Thursday, that show, The Vampire Diaries, finally debuts.
At the same time, the CW could have done a whole lot worse in who created the show than Kevin Williamson, the screenwriter behind the Scream movies — projects that completely redefined the horror genre simply by including characters who had seen all the horror movies, and knew all the cliches.
A few years after Scream, Williamson struck gold again, creating Dawson’s Creek, a TV show with more hyper-aware, hyper-literate teens.
In short, Williamson was pretty much the perfect person to bring The Vampire Diaries to life.
Kevin’s co-creator on The Vampire Diaries is Julie Plec, who he first met on the set of Scream and who has since worked with him on many projects, including the Scream sequels and Dawson’s Creek.
“I was [director] Wes [Craven's] assistant on Scream,” Plec says. “It was [Kevin's] first movie that ever got made. My first movie. I was 22, just out of college. We were two kids in a candy store, up in Santa Rosa, California, on location, making a movie.”
Recently, I got a chance to sit down with both of them and talk about The Vampire Diaries — how they almost didn’t make it because of the success of Twilight, how the show is, and isn’t, different from that project, and how vampire stories are really all about sex.
TheTorchOnline: Just how sick are you of the comparisons to Twilight?
Kevin Williamson: We’re not sick really, but we don’t know what to say. We can give you the studio answer, which is that they’re based on these books that were released in 1992 or whatever.
Julie Plec: The comparisons are difficult only in that you never want anyone accusing you of ripping something off. But because we have the source material that pre-dates Twilight so significantly, we feel confident that the story we’re telling is our own. But there is going to be a lot of that.
TheTorchOnline: How did the project come about?
Kevin Williamson: In the beginning when I read it, I didn’t want to be involved with it, because I felt like it was sort of a Twilight rip-off, no matter what came first. The premise was the same: girl falls in love with a vampire. But Julie kept saying, “Keep reading, keep reading!”
And then you realize that this is [much more] a story about a small town, about the underbelly of a small town, and what lurks under the surface.
TheTorchOnline: In the beginning, were you told, “Give us a project about vampires,” and then you searched for something that spoke to you?
Julie Plec: We were talking to [executives at the CW] about vampires and how much we love them, and one of us said, “We’d love to do a vampire show, but nobody’s going to do another vampire story.”
Kevin Williamson: And we don’t want to be the one that comes after.
Julie Plec: And they said, “Actually, we have a property that we’ve been dying to do. We absolutely want to do a vampire show, and we’d love for you to look at it, so we did.”
TheTorchOnline: It does seem like the perfect CW show, that if it didn’t exist, it should exist.
Kevin Williamson: That’s what we all thought.
Julie Plec: That’s why when people say, “Are you treading ground that is too familiar?” we say, “Specifically, on our network, it’s the perfect amalgamation of what they’ve been doing, that takes all the genres they’ve been dabbling in and combines them into one show.”
Kevin Williamson: It’s also different from the Buffy and Smallville and Supernatural model in that they’re sort of monster-of-the-week shows, and we’re not that. This is actually closer to Gossip Girl than that. In the sense that it’s a serialized ensemble teen soap with a supernatural element. It’s more about characters and romance.
TheTorchOnline: What do you think accounts for the ongoing fascination with these vampire stories?
Julie Plec: Bandwagon! [laughs]
For me, in a weird way, it’s less about vampires than it is about love. And when you’re telling a love story, the great love stories of all time are always about people who are attracted who are polar opposites. It’s about, “Who is that person who caught my eye across the room, and what is it about that person, why do they seem so different and why do I find myself so drawn to them? What is it about them that fills me up from the inside?”
When you have a love story that’s this powerful, and then you throw this genre element into it, with the great guy across the room who’s moody and brooding and sexy and dangerous, and also happens to be a vampire, then you end up with stories you can tell for days!
Kevin Williamson: I also think sexuality has something to do with it. We’re living in an age where Twilight is being read by thirteen year-old girls. There’s a sophistication to readers today. Subconsciously, they’re reading about sex, but they don’t know it. They’re reading about sex and sexuality, their awakening, and it’s all through the guise of this very safe vampire who goes and bites your neck and does nothing else. It’s a very safe form of releasing sexual tension.
There are those who say that you go to a horror movie so you can be scared and release all your hormones, so you don’t go out in the world and do “it.”
TheTorchOnline: You look at Buffy and Anne Rice, and it seems like a big part of most of these vampire projects is that they take on big moral issues. Is that something you plan to do with this show?
Kevin Williamson: We do deal with morality in the sense of right and wrong and control and betrayal and trust and friendship — all the great themes of coming of age will be told, but with life-and-death stakes.
Julie Plec: You look at Twilight, for example, and they notoriously are an abstinence metaphor, which is a really beautiful and ironic idea when you consider that vampires throughout literature have been a sexualized object.
Kevin Williamson: The seducers.
Julie Plec: We’re not saying we’re going down the abstinence road.
Kevin Williamson: At all!
Julie Plec: But it’s more about the idea of self-control, and finding your inner core, the morality that exists in you: “I have a choice here, I can take this very dark road and be a predator and I can be evil. Or I can fight those darker instincts, and choose to live my life on a clearer, stronger path.”
Kevin Williamson: Which is not his natural instinct. His natural instinct is to kill, and he’s fighting that every day. For the love of a woman!
TheTorchOnline: How closely are you following the books?
Julie Plec: I like to say that if you look at the gross content of the books, we’re following it incredibly closely. But if you look at the timeline, it’s varying quite a bit. We’re telling some of the stories a lot faster, some of them a lot slower. But the core relationships are very specific, and very much what we’re playing with.
We’ve got about five books that we’re hopefully turning into many, many seasons. The lead character in the books is actually dead by book three, she’s a ghost. It might take us a bit longer to do that!
There is a core fan-base for the books. And they’re mad that the lead character is not blond. So when you start there, there’s not a lot you can do.
TheTorchOnline: In Scream, the characters have all seen all the horror movies. In The Vampire Diaries, do the characters live in a world that’s familiar with fictional vampires? Are they aware of Twilight?
Kevin Williamson: A little bit. Look, this isn’t going to be Scream dialogue, or Dawson’s Creek heightened psychobabble. It’s going to be its own show. It’s based on a book, and we’re going to stay true to that book and those characters.
But yes, the characters live in the real world. They go to the movies, they turn on the TV at night. We actually wrote the scene yesterday when one of the characters finds out [the show's star] Ian Somerhalder is a vampire, her first question is, “Why don’t you sparkle [like in the Twilight books]?”
Julie Plec: And Ian says, “Because I live in the real world where vampires and sunlight don’t mix!”
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I’ll give this show a go, but if it’s not up to “True Blood” quality in terms of writing, performance, direction, etc (not necessarily in terms of “tone”), then I won’t keep tuning in.
Having read what happens to the main character, I would be FAR more interested in the show if those changes happened FAR sooner. It would help to differentiate the show from every other story (True Blood, Buffy, Twilight, etc) about a “normal” teenage/young girl and her vampire boyfriend.
I first read these books when I was 13 and have always loved them. Speaking for myself I don’t mind that Nina’s not blonde, I just want the series to be as faithful to the books as possible and the acting and scripts to be good.
The books differ greatly from Twilight in the fact that the lead isn’t under constant threat from her boyfriend’s brother who plays on thier very mutual attraction while she tries to keep it a secret from her boyfriend.
At the minute my biggest rant is that I have to wait until 2010 to see this, I don’t think I can wait that long!
I actually really don’t care if Elana is not blonde or if they didn’t include her friend Meredith. All i care about is that they follow the details and the storyline.^^ Can’t wait until this show is aired!!
Meyer’s Twilight isn’t a terrible story, but there are several terrible things about it (Bella is a horrible role model for young girls, and Meyer’s prose is juvenile and excreble). I’d certianly not let my teenaged girls read it. OTOH, The Vampre Diaries is a step up in quality - certainly not JK Rowling, but better. I’d certainly not be able (with a straight face) to compare any book to Twilight, unless it was with grave embarrassment that I’d read it. I look forward to the CW show.
Its Gossip Girl with fangs. I don’t know how much they will deviate from the books but I can only hope. After reading the books, I wanted both my time and money back.
As far as Twilight comparisons, they’re right: LJ Smith got the jump on Stephenie Meyer by several years…and there are quite a few scenes in TVD that are so close to Twilight that I have a hard time believing *someone* wasn’t reading *someone else’s* books and getting ideas. Srsly.
I’ll keep watching TVD for the time being, but the angsty vampire thing is getting old. Trendy angsty vampires are worse.
The Vampire Diaries has its place, but to be honest it is a distant second to HBO’s True Blood. That series is where the real fun is at.