People have been debating which is better, Twilight or Harry Potter, for as long as both series have existed. Now we’re going to get an actual answer.
Later this month, the Seattle Public Library will host a debate put on by a local after-school reading program. The Great Debate: Harry Potter vs. Twilight will include two panels of three teenagers each who will debate the merits of each series. At the end, a panel of judges will declare, based on the arguments offered by the two sides, which series is the better.
Okay, so it’s not exactly the Lincoln-Douglas debates. But it’s still pretty cool.
The event, which is a fundraiser for the afterschool program Team Read, is the work of the organization’s program director Bill Eisele.
“We talked to high school students about what gets them excited about reading,” Eisele says. “They kept bringing up Harry Potter and Twilight. They got really excited about both these series.”
But Eisele says this will be no mere polite exchanging of opinions.
“The students really want to go at it, get down and dirty,” he says. “They have very strong opinions about which series is the better one. They want a verbal smackdown with a winner.”
The event will include a Harry Potter/Twilight trivia contest open to all, but the debate itself will be conducted by two teen panels being selected now, both of which will have prepared beforehand.
The event takes place on Saturday, March 21, at Seattle’s Central (downtown) Library in the Microsoft Auditorium, 4-5:30pm.
And rest assured, TheTorchOnline.com will be there to tape it all and post it here!
For more information on the debate, go to TeamRead.org or contact the Seattle library’s teen center, at (206) 615-1410 or teencenter@spl.org.
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Please. Harry Potter. I mean, please.
HA HA UR WRONG READ AT LEAST 1 CHAPTER OF BREAKING DAWN I MEAN PLEASE HARRY POTTER IS POOP.
are you kidding i read the entire twilight series and all of the harry potters too.
there is no question harry potter is better!
Breaking Dawn?! Are you kidding me? That was an utterly out of control pile of plotless junk that was written as if it were bad fanfiction! Harry Potter will go down as literature and be read for generations to come. Twilight will become quickly dated and drip out of style and out of the mind of the world. May the best story prevail.
LOL U ARE SOOOOOOOOOO RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!! I LOVE TWILIGHT NEW MOON ECLIPSE AND BREAKING DAWN AND I ALWAYS WILL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IM GOING TO SEE THE MIDNIGHT PRMIERE OF NEW MOON!!!!!!!!!!!=P CANT WAIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
~Pickel=D
If you’ve read Harry Potter, you would no that the Harry Potter books are so much better than Twilight.
People who says Twilight is better can’t even give good arguments. They just say Twilight is better because it’s about love, and they think Robert Pattison is hot. Maybe there’s not as much love in HP, BUT the story is so much better, and the the characters are more “real”. You can read HP 1000 times and never get tired of it. The story in Twilight is just too predictable.
And YES, I HAVE READ BREAKING DOWN! I’VE READ ALL THE TWILIGHT BOOKS! They’re good, if you don’t have anything better to read. But compared to HP, they suck! I’m sorry, but it’s true! And Breaking Down was the worst twilight book.
You are so right. I’m reading the Harry Potter series for the upteenth time. I lost count of how many times actually. Harry Potter got me through the torture we call high school.
Twilight not so much. I found I can only read those barely once. I couldn’t even get through breaking dawn. Maybe because I’m not a teenage girl…
Why Breaking Dawn, the last book? Why not Twilight, the first one? Oh, because the point starts at the end? Because all the books are crap? I think most Harry fans have tried to read Twilight, thinking it would be like Harry Potter, and not liked it. I doubt it. Oh, and writing in all caps is rather annoying.
I did read the entire Twilight series, then subsequently scolded myself for spending my time and money reading two thousand pages of a degrading love story with little or no plot. It was useless mush, mostly concerning the love between Bella and Edward. I’m sorry, but I really am totally uninterested in a book that is about lovesick teenagers who need to get their priorities straight. All Bella seems to be concerned about is Edward and how much she wants him, while Harry Potter is concerned more for the fate and well-being of the world. In addition, when you get right down to it, JK Rowling is a better and more creative writer than Stephanie Meyer, I mean really, the only adjective she can come up with to describe Edward is ‘beautiful’, and I feel as if she is trying to shove abstinence down my throat. Also, what kind of message does Meyer send to young girls who read this series? One that tells them it is completely acceptable to ditch an education and pursue a man who is a danger to you? And that they’ll never be good enough for some boy? Rowling sends a message that is appealing to not only teenage girls, but everyone, one that says good will conquer over evil and that friendship can help you through anything. And what an intelligent comment you’ve posted. Harry Potter is ‘Poop’. Classy, my friend, classy. And might I add that next time you would like to insult what could probably be considered the best literature of the decade, you find a new adjective perhaps and some decent reasoning. On the contrary my dear, Twilight is, as you say the one that is ‘Poop’.
Still Astonished by Your Lack of Intelligent Word Choice,
Anna
ok i totally agrre with you, harry potter is more detailed and thrilling i read alll of them and they kept me on my toews reading them!! also, it seems like stephanie meyer is too afraid to kill her characters no one important really dies… harry potter by far is soo amazing the way its worded and alll planned out. plz reply bak thanks!!!
HARRY POTTER! NO CONTEST!
UR WRONG TWILIGHT IS SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MUCH BETTER
RIGHT!!!!!!?
GO TWLIGHT 4EVER
~pickel=P
No. Twilight is crap. End of story. I’m offended people actually think that they are even in the same league. As they say, “Harry Potter caused literacy, and Twilight, all that caused was idiocy.”
Harry Potter will always kick Twilight’s sparkly ass.
-Kaily
As far as reading the books, I really like Twilight and absolutely love Harry Potter.
The writing/plot/character development in HP is much better than in Twilight.
But I still do like Twilight.
I think this is spot-on. TWILIGHT is very readable, but doesn’t hold up nearly as well as HP is almost every other respect.
Man, I want to be at this debate! Will look forward to your report, Brent.
See, I fear leaving this in the hands of teenagers, but dollar values alone prove Harry Potter. Harry Potter and Twilight have similar gross dollar earnings in the States, but everywhere else, Harry Potter absolutely trounces Twilight!
You make a good point. Then again, it’s ultimately just an opinion — and opinions can’t really be “right” or “wrong.”
As for teenagers, in a way I think they’re the only ones who CAN debate this, because they’re the ones who are really having the debate among themselves…
Rest assured Chritine. As long as the panels are not rabid fan girls, teens have enough sense to fight this out. Also, clearly, Harry Potter has the better arguement behind it.
Funny poll.
Brent, I’m confused — what do you mean teenagers can only debate about this since HP has become a college reading book for creative writing and such….
HP, hands down is better. Twilight is boring and selfish, ROBERT PATTINSON IS NOT CUTE AT ALL
I just mean that the debate is REALLY raging in teenager circles these days.
I agree with you here. In both cases, the books hacve transcended the YA tag they were published under. I know people of all ages reading both.
P.S. Yeah, Robert Pattison needs to take a shower and do something with his hair and then maybe he would at least be presentable, still not cute, but passable to be allowed out in public!
Although I’m a girl, Harry Potter is definitely WAY better than Twilight.
R U KIDDING UR STUPID HARRY POTTER O IM SORRRY, HARRY POOPER IS DUMB
why the hell are you so rude? well how ’bout this. i think YOU’RE stupid & i think TWILIGHT is dumb.
& i agree with sydney; harry potter is DEFINITELY WAY better than twilight.
I think you are very Harsh to harry POtter (Which Is better by Far)I think Twilight sucks more than spiders and that is saying something, but I don’t say in the middle of a Harry POtter beats Twilight Hands Down Contest. I mean,people will hate you. Do you want to be hated?
Twilight teaches wrong morals to young people now, girls. Meyer made Bella a total anti true woman. She made her weak, dependent on Edward all the time, can;t make her own choices, etc etc. Bella is a Mary Sue, since she has no flaws. Clumsy, no, that is just to make Bella seem more adorable.
Meyer must be really into pedophillia(whatever cant spell that) if she has Jacob imprint on Bella’s baby.
Meyer is not original, the story was written in mere hours, by the way not a compliment, Jk Rowling dedicated years for all the Harry Potter books to be published and amazing. Meyer had to combine two names for Bella’s baby. woooow sooooo original.
ETC ETC ETC ETC
Well ‘Twilight Lover’ have you read Harry Potter!?!? I’ve read both. Twilight once and HP 3 times but am planning to read it more!! I think that you are wrong!! J.K. Rowling actually worked on Harry Potter Miss.Stephanie Meyer who is really lazy claims she had a dream and worked about 15-20 minutes of one chapter! Also I bet she only had written on chapter of Midnight Sun and was happy to find an excuse for not writing more. So what if it was leaked?!? It was soon going to be read. J.K. Rowling is just not writing any more books because she and every other Harry Potter fan thinks that it would ruin the series! I would personally be very mad at her for writing another book. Also I am counting down to the days until Deathly Hallows comes out!! I don’t even know which month Eclipse is gonna come out!! New Moon was an okay movie but Half Blood Prince was 1000000000000 and more times better!! Long Live HARRY POTTER
Neither one is better than the other, if you go by the fan base, as both are extremely popular books. In terms of writing, Harry Potter is by far the better book. Stephanie Meyer has come up with an intriguing plot, but the writing just doesn’t do it for me. Descriptions are lacking, dialogue is corny, and the characters don’t develop, not to mention that the characters are boring to begin with. However, both bring up extremely complex ideas about magic and the supernatural, making both enjoyable reads to some extent.
Though these both are famous books, many other, better authors do not get enough acknowledgement and there are far superior novels out there for people to read.
Well put. I think that is the consensus I’m hearing. (Meyer’s sexism, or at least her passive female characters, annoys me though.)
As a female and someone who has read Twilight, (Though I am for Harry Potter in this argument. The quality far transcends that of Twilgiht.) I was often irked by Bella’s utter lack of will. It’s like she really believes herself worthless without Edward. Meyer has not written any sort winningly feminest novel. That’s for sure. Thanks for bringing that to attention.
Now, I’m no expert writer or anything, but I did receive my bachelors degree in English with a track in Creative Writing. And strictly going by quality of writing, Harry Potter wins, hands down.
As for plots…there really is no comparison. Granted, I only read the first book in the Twilight series, but the reason for that is it was so incredibly sluggish and dull, not to mention inanely maudlin. I only finished it because it was like watching a car wreck- horrifically bad, but you want to see how it could possibly end.
I’m not saying Harry Potter didn’t have it’s over-angsty moments, or that it was riveting from the start of book 1 to the end of book 7. But at least the plot went somewhere, and the characters didn’t sit around and talk at each other through an entire book.
I had EXACTLY the same reaction pretty much.
Have to totally agree with you here!
It’s soooo Harry Potter. Is that really a question? I mean the movies and books are both sooo much better than Twilight. JK makes it seem like a real world. It has a government, a international sport, and it has books that show almost every magical creature (Magical Creatures and Where to Find Them and a book that has everything about quiddtich (Quiddtich Through the Ages)and to top that all off those books were both for charity.
I have one more thing to say.
Sparkly Vampires… I mean come on!
I have one more thing to say. The only good parts in the twilight movie
were the baseball and the part where Edward and Bella were in tree. And my friend said it would be funny if Bella fell out of the tree to her doom. I laughed. I like Robert Patterson better as Cedric. That part fits him more and he needs to wash his hair. Most people don’t even now that Cedric is played by the same guy who is Edward. And I don’t get why people like Twilight so much Edward is a creep. Following Bella to her house then watching her sleep. I call that extreme creep and that Charlie needs to arrest Edward for breaking a entry.
i agree i liked robert way better as cedric than a ’sparkling vampire. like where’d she get that from??
ha ha ha ha ha!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU HP FANS CRACK ME UP!!! TWILIGHT IS SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MUCH BETTER NO CONTEST . HP FANS WOULD NOT KNO A GOOD BOOK IF IT HIT THEM IN THE HEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I WATCHED HP 1 TIME I LIKE FELL ASLEEP IN THE LIKE THE FIRST 10 MINUTES. I LOVE STEPHANIE MEYER SHE IS MY IDOL! U HP PEOPLE NEED TO READ LIKE ONE CHAPTER OF BREAKING DAWN THEN IT WILL CONSUME YOU! I LOVE EDWARD!!!!!
If you are such a twilight fan then you must know movies are not a bit like books. Books are better. And if you fell asleep at a Harry Potter movie then read the book. I bet you have not even read one book of Harry Potter. I have read both series and Harry Potter wins by a lot.
You say you “watched HP 1″ and fell asleep. Why not try reading the book? Also, if you want to be taken seriously by people debating books, I suggest you spell out all your words and cease using expressions like “UR”. This a debate about novels, not a an entry on your facebook page.
You know, as I’ve been reading these comments, I’ve noticed how much stronger the debating style of the Harry Potter (which completely trumps Twilight, by the way) fans is. I mean, they use logic and complete sentences. The Twilight fans, on the other hand, use textchat (which rather demeans your quality as a fan and legitimate debater) and write in all caps, and that sends a sign to people that they’re not the most rational or reasonable people, further undermining their efforts to prove that Twilight is the better series.
For my own opinion, Harry Potter is the better series, no doubt about it. That’s not to say that Twilight doesn’t have its merits, and Harry Potter its flaws, but if you consider what HP brings to the table and what Twilight does(n’t), it’s really no contest. J.K. Rowling’s world is extremely original, her characters well-developed, her plot engaging and just plain fine writing. In Twilight, we have a heroine who is one-dimensional and a shame to feminists everywhere, her boyfriend, who’s full of romanticized stalker-isms, and a cast of sometimes interesting (Rosalie is pretty decent), sometimes cringe-inducing supporting cast. Even characters with potential eventually turn into bizarre mutations (Jacob). And that’s not even mentioning the fact that Stephenie Meyer’s writing isn’t at all comparable to J.K. Rowling’s.
Now, to prove that I am a fair contender, let me say that I’ve read both series, several times, and I’ve seen all of the movies but New Moon, only because it has just come out. I even read Twilight BEFORE the obsession started, and enjoyed it, even recommended it. But as time went on, and I took time to step back and reflect as the series debate started to rage, I realized that Twilight just didn’t compare. Remove all the romance, and what you’re left with is weak characters, a not terribly interesting plot, and a lot of vampire attributes borrowed from Anne Rice. That’s not to say that I didn’t also sometimes see this in Harry Potter. Someone earlier commented that many of the HP books have a similar plot, and that’s true, but Rowling adds something new, some characterization onto the plot every time.
So Twilight lovers, I encourage you to be fair to your series and Harry Potter, as most of the HP fans seem to be doing for you, and consider how you’ll feel twenty years down the road when Robert Pattinson is no longer “hot” (another topic that I have many opinions about) and when you’re telling your children what books you read when you were their age. (Another question to you, Twilight fans; is it the books you like, or just the actors?) thank you for reading my little rant and please excuse all of the run-on sentences, and how long my comment is.
Sophie, you deserve an award for that comment, it was very well argued and I applaud the fact that you actually used a concede and refute, something which many of the arguments here have been lacking.
Something that I wanted to add was the impact that both series have on their readers, especially the younger ones. I can say from personal experience that in elementary school, Hermione was one of my biggest role models. Her strength in the face of bigotry, prejudice, and (the worst of all) middle-school-age pettiness was something that I was always in admiration of. Hermione showed me that it was all right to be smart, even if being bookish meant being lonely at first, and I could relate to her on so many levels (not just because she was the clumsy new girl in town who was in love with vampire, which seems to be the main defense that twi-hards are giving). Now, I know that Hermione is not the main character of the Harry Potter books, if she were, they’d be called the Hermione Granger books (which doesn’t have quite the same ring to it), but as a pre-teen girl, she might as well have been.
Twilight, on the other hand, features a main character who is completely dependent on her boyfriend, who wallows in self-pity (if you don’t agree, just re-read Breaking Dawn “oh, woe is me”) who’s “human” hormones are always the excuse for why she just want’s to get laid (which, by the way, is the worst excuse I’ve ever heard.) Now, I do have to admit that there are some strong female characters in the Twilight series, such as Alice and Rosalie, both of whom are driven by strong ties of friendship and family, and who have enough of a background that you actually can understand why they are how they are. However, their qualities are not quite enough to neutralize the horrid effects that Bella’s pettiness may leave on the first-time readers of twilight, many of whom are at age where morale values and personal judgement are crucial.
Like Sophie, I too have read all the Twilight books, I actually really did like them! However, where Harry Potter has things that you can discuss and debate for years, Twilight proved to fizzle out in a matter of months for me. However, I do actually quite respect Twilight fans, their verve is quite admirable. I only wish that Twilighters would care to return the favor for all the HP lovers out there (and don’t call us “Potterfiles,” that’s just rude!.)
The best part about this comment is the fact you can fall asleep in ten minutes, something I can never do. Darnit.
You’re not going to put much of a point across if all you do is type in capslock and not even explain your answer well.
And your comment about Harry Potter fans actually made me laugh and feel insulted at the same time. Hee.
Most Twilight and Potter fans would agree that books are better then movies…. have you even read Twilight, or are you just trying to “popular?”
Please tell me this is a joke.
HP FANS WOULD NOT KNO A GOOD BOOK IF IT HIT THEM IN THE HEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We wouldn’t know a good book if it hit us in the head? Is that because we don’t like Twilight?
I WATCHED HP 1 TIME I LIKE FELL ASLEEP IN THE LIKE THE FIRST 10 MINUTES.
You can’t judge a book by its movie. Try and read the books before you comment.
TWILIGHT IS SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MUCH BETTER NO CONTEST
Why exactly is it better? You haven’t given us a reason to prove it’s ’sooooooooooo much better no contest’
And try and learn some grammar. And some spelling.
NOW EXUSE ME I AM A 36 YEAR OLD WOMAN AND TWILIGHT WINS THE HEART OF PEOPLE ALL AGES I OLOVE THE ONLY BAD THING IS NO BOOK SERIS IS EVER GOING TO BE BETTER
On the contrary, I’m a teenager, who found Twilight rather vapid. There are far better books out there, Harry Potter included. Twilight may be entertaining and somewhat addicting, but it is not well written and has many flaws even for the cheap teen novel that it is. Why not try some literature? You may find you enjoy it.
First of all, if you were really a 36 year old women, don’t you think you would know how to spell “Excuse” and “Series?” I mean, that just shows that Twilight is a bad source of Literature. I’m 11 years old, and I first read Harry Potter when I was nine. Ever since then, Hermionie has been a great person to look up to for me. Although she’s a bit bossy, she shows girls of ALL AGES that it’s good to be smart, even if you get lonely at times. Really, Do you think that a 14 year old boy or a 60 year old women would pick up a Twilight book and read it through? I highly doubt it. I think that Harry Potter also has very good influences to young people, such as Harry’s case, Even if you have hardships in you’re life, you have to keep going. It also proves that good will always box out evil, and No matter how long it takes, keep trying. I have tried to read the Twilight series, but after I finished the first book, I didn’t want to pick up the second right away, like I did with Harry Potter. What influences does Twilight have? That you should kill yourself if you don’t have a boyfriend. If I were to read that, and say, I just got dumped by my boyfriend, I might even attempt, really do it, or think about killing myself. That is the wrong thing to put in girl’s (especially teenage) heads. I’m not saying I have a boyfriend or plan on having one anytime soon, but I can relate.
Sorry if my comment was to long, but I had to prove my point.
And sparkly vampires, REALLY?
I’m in awe of you. You give me a great deal of faith in the younger generation, if you’re 11 years old and you wrote that comment. I’m sure that you’re going to go very far in life.
On Miss Hermione Granger, she is by far one of my favorite literary characters. I can relate to her so much more than I can relate to Bella Swan, although I have been in similar situations to the both of them. Hermione is a fantastic role model for young girls, because she’s not going to let some boy be the center of her life. She’s going to say what she thinks, but she’ll be fair. She makes friends and keeps them, unlike Bella. I’m sorry, but how am I supposed to relate to a girl who moves to a new town and worries about how people see her, easily makes friends, and them throws them all away because her boyfriend finally got a hold of some sense and said “Enough!” No, that is a terrible way to live. At least Hermione can deal with her problems in realistic, sensible way. If she’s alienating her friends she’s got a VERY good reason for it.
May I take a moment to recommend to you some decent fantasy? Please, at some point in your life, read “Howl’s moving Castle.” It’s got enough wit to keep Shakespeare laughing for weeks and a romance that quietly sneaks up on you and makes you believe that love stories can be written without dramatic fluff. In addition, there’s a fantastic movie based on the book from Hayao Miyazaki, one of the greatest animators of all time. I recommend his work as well. And if you’re in the mood for a parody, you could read “Nightlight,” a parody of Twilight from The Harvard Lampoon.
Thank you very much, Sophie. I have actually been waiting to get the book “Nightlight.” A friend told me about it, and it seems pretty helpful to our side of the debate! Also, “Howl’s Moving Castle” seems very good, and I will look for the book and the movie. Ever since I read “Harry Potter” I’ve found out that reading is one of my biggest interests. Although I have always been a bookworm, after reading “Harry Potter” I became more and more interested in books, and I’ve been reading books every day for at least 3 hours. Thanks again for the book ideas, I’ve been looking for something to read!
I also think that the actress that plays Hermione,Emma Watson. She’s beautiful inside and out, smart, but she’s not a snob that takes control over fame, just like Hermione. She’s also a great person for me to look up to, considering she hasn’t done anything dirty or anything. She’s always been seen in long, elegant, dresses, that make her look so beautiful, which would help young girls like me see that you don’t need to much makeup or clothes that make you uncomfortable. I have always tried to be like Emma or Hermione over the last two years, because they show you that things that are “popular” aren’t always right, and to stick up for yourself. And of course, Hermione didn’t realize she liked Ron until she was 17, proving that Hermione, or any other of the characters, (such as Harry and Ginny) believe in getting married at 18 (or younger) which is a great influence to have.
Thanks Again, Sophie!
Hannah
Oh, and Sophie, I forget to mention how persuasive your other comment was! It was excellent and you really proved your point!
Thanks one more time!
Hannah
Ah the trolls finally show. Sorry to brake it to you but you just got pwned. Now would you kindly STFU before I break out the Turn Undead?
Don’t make me get out the Fireballs!
Harry Potter is way better than twilight. Harry Potter is made up of an incredible world, it has all sorts of adventures, feelings, characters, fantastic creatures, battles, explanations, and a unique world that has never been seen before. Twilight, however, is just another tale about vampires and werewolves, it is a love story about a vampire and a normal girl who cannot do anything interesting at all and is always running for her life hoping to be bitten and become vampire someday. How can that be as interesting as Harry Potter? Stephanie Meyer does not have even a bit of J.K. Rowling’s imagination.
J.K. Rowling came up with a new world all by herself while Stephanie Meyer only made some alterations to the already known creatures.
I like both but I think all the Harry Potter books are amazing and I was rather disapointed by new moon. So I would say Harry Potter.
Ok, I liked Twilight simply because it’s a good bit of escapism but it cannot and will not ever compare to Harry Potter. Seriously, HP has an awesome plot that slowly develops over the course of the series. The characters are all well developed and explored, even the smaller characters like Neville. The Twilight saga only ever really focuses on Bella/Edward/Jacob and never really creates any depth to any of the other characters. They’re all sort of background noise to these 3. I can read HP again and again and really sink into another world. I can relate to Harry because he goes through every type of emotion and JK really explores the different emotional situations the characters find themselves in. The Twilight characters are merely self-absorbed and barely 2 dimensional when it comes to any other emotional situation apart from infatuation and I was surprised by the fact that what Bella and Edward had in the first book so early could have been classified as love. Call it what it is, peoples - crazy crush lust.
Oh, and one more thing. The climax to Breaking Dawn was severely disappointing. I mean, seriously? I thought it was all too convenient and there was no conflict. Was too Fairy Tale-ish. At least in HP conflict was seen, both physical and emotional and JK wasn’t afraid to kill off some of the main characters. It just left the end of the T series feeling way too open to be the end.
OK. Let’s face it, “Twilight” cannot EVER be compared to HP. I mean, it’s entertaining, I actually read the series, and I liked them. But I also read the seven HP books and they have so much more depth. But I’m not going to go on ranting about why I think that HP is “better” than Twilight
But if I had to vote, my vote would definitly go to HP.
GIRLS ONLY LIKE TWILIGHT CAUSE OF THE UGLY ROBERT “EAT SHIT” PATTISON.
BAD BOOK, BAD ACTING, BORING STORY… JUST GOOD LOOKING ACTORS.
im a girl and I DO NOT just like twilight because of the ugly hobo robert pattison.
Oh, so you only like twilight for Jacob Black. I see.
Go Hannah!
I have been counting how many supported HP and there’s more for HP!! YAY!! CUZ I THINK HARRY POTTER ALL THE WAY!!! It’s for all ages and Twilight is mostly for teens but it kinda has some bad stuff in it…I mean…
who gets married at 18??? Twilight is a bad influence for young people!!
And Harry Potter has always been true to it’s lesson: Lily Potter’s love for Harry saved Harry from Voldemort…showing that Love is stronger than Power…!
Oh, and HP sold 400,000 million for the whole series and Twilight sold 42 million for the whole series!
Harry Potter is leagues beyond anything Twilight will ever be.
Harry Potter is a world unto itself, with all kinds of mythos, sub-plots, histories, complexities etc. Even though Harry himself kind of goes through a minor emo-phase in the sixth book, at least it comes off as credible considering everything that happens in Order of the Phoenix. All of the characters experience some sort of growth/development (even Neville, who becomes a sort of badass in the last book).
Harry Potter is universal and can be enjoyed by peoples of all ages and audiences. Twilight is almost primarily geared towards immature teenage girls still in high school, at best. That’s why the only people who ever vouch for Twilight are obnoxious, foaming-at-the-mouth fan girls who can’t ever actually articulate why Twilight is better. Kind of like the trolls who’ve been frequently posting here.
All Twilight has to offer is mostly the Bella/Edward romance. And even that is lame. It’s not even a really compelling love, since it’s only lust and infatuation, not a true romance.
I’d really like to be at this debate just to see what team-Twilight can possibly argue in support of Twilight being better. They have virtually nothing to argue. Nothing.
/end rant
After seeing all the comments about Robert Pattinson in realtion to Twilight, I just feel the need to point out that he also played Cedric Diggory in HPGOF. Have you all forgotten? Make of that what you will.
Harry Potter is better. Harry Potter is not only far more imaginative and creative, but it is better written. Stephenie Meyer uses a minimal vocabulary, adding an occasional long word to make her work seem sophisticated.
The characters in Harry Potter are better developed. Honestly, you think that the whiny pathetic selfish mean weakling who does nothing but cry and wait for others to save her (aka: Bella) is a good character? Every Harry Potter character is well thought out, has distinct flaws and distinct strengths, and is very well developed.
Stephenie Meyer contradicts herself like no other. Here is every other conversation by Bella and Edward:
Bella: I love you!
Edward: I love you more!
Bella: I want to be with you forever!
Edward: It’s too dangerous
5 pages later
Bella: I want to be with you forever!
Edward: Okay!
Harry Potter has a plot. Twilight has so many plot holes, or its plot lasts for about 4 pages and then is tossed aside.
What is the ONE AND ONLY argument of Twilight fans that Twilight is better (which is NOT a good argument anyway)? “Edward is so HOT!” Okay, so if Edward was ugly as shit, nobody would like Twilight. End of story. Edward isn’t even a good boyfriend. Of course, Stephenie Meyer believes that the man should DOMINATE the woman and control her life completely.
Another thing: Harry Potter has GOOD MORALS. Tell me the moral of Twilight? Oh, right, there is none.
Harry Potter has little hints throughout the books of the end, and the books mature with the characters. It is so imaginative and creative, it inspires so many.
Great writers say that JK Rowling is a better writer than Stephenie Meyer, including Stephen King.
Twilight puts a shame not only to vampires, but to literature itself.
Harry Potter uses history, and many other things (ex. astrology) to develop the story even further. It was well thought out, unlike Twilight. JK Rowling also seems to understand that a character is not either all good or all bad, but both, and it’s the choices that they make which count. Stephenie does not get that. Her vain mind is too shallow to comprehend such a complicated thing.
Harry Potter is for EVERYONE, while Twilight is mainly for shallow fanatic teenage girls.
One more note: Bella and Edward DO NOT really love each other. It is lust and obsession caused by the fact that these characters are unbelievably dull and have no life.
HARRY POTTER ROCKS!! ^_^
Harry Potter beats Twilight no doubt about it. Harry Potter has a plot that last through the whole series and the characters develope as time goes on, which is seven years.
Twilight on the other hand has no plot and none of the characters actually develope and it’s what two, three years or somewhere in that area and the only change they go through is Bella getting more whiney.
Harry Potter has a background story as to what happened to every character and why they are the way they are. Twilight doesn’t do any of that.
Harry Potter uses a varied amount of vocabulary, while Twilight uses the smallest amount possible and makes it seem like the writer doesn’t know any big words.
There are a number of other things that I could compare between the two books, but I think I should stop now. The bottom line is that Harry Potter has a point while Twilight has none and is pointless.
You Twilight-fans can clearly see that HP i so much better! HP-fans can actually give arguments, unlike you.
All you (okay, not everybody, but some) say is “Twilight is so much better. HP sucks!” But you never say WHY Twilight is so much better, according to you.
If you give arguments, you simply say “Oh, it’s better because it’s about love, and Robert Pattison is hot!” or something like that.
HP-fans can give tons of better arguments. As you can see here.
Anyone out there that says Twilight is better than Harry Potter is on drugs because, really read and watch the books and movies for Harry Potter and if you don’t agree go see a theropist
too right!